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Hey tin_o_biscuits, I believe you wanted some Hoshi in the African breeze screen caps? Do you have an email, because I have made LOTS. :D


I still love that part when Lee introduces the President and Admiral as they leave on the raptor and the two of them are just like "...." Awkwardness is awesome.

Gah, this really was so good until it got so bad. Honestly, I think it could've ended with them floating over the moon and Earth comes into view. And I would've thought it was the awesomest thing ever. That should have been the end of the show, right there. Starbuck would've finally fulfilled her special destiny, the opera house has played out, Galactica is a broken mess, the cylons are no longer a threat, and they have finally found a home. THE END. (whenever I watch this again, I think I should really just stop it there)

Mary McDonnell is such a great actress. She plays dying/near dying so well in this episode, I really believe this woman is just barely hanging on physically.

The soundtrack is great, really great. I love how Bear uses a koto for the battle scenes (or what sounds like a koto anyway).

That part where the sun is rising over the plain, after Roslin dies and just before they show the fleet walking? Does anyone else want to start singing "The Circle of Life" seeing that? lol

I'm really looking forward to The Plan, if only to watch Dean Stockton stalk around all angry and intense and evil. I ♥ Dean Stockton so much.

You know what you could've given the natives Lee? Medicine. You know, useful stuff to keep people form dying before the age of 40. :P
Also, Bill, spreading people out will give them the best chance possible? Does that not seem like a really dumb idea to anyone else? Keeping everyone together would be more likely to keep them alive, since a) more people to gather food, especially when others start getting sick and b) more people equals more ability to breed. Splitting up is never a good idea, EVER.
And you know what bugs me about this even more? Is that for the entire show, Roslin, Adama, and everyone else aboard Galactica has been hell bent on keeping everyone together. So they finally reach a planet and...split up? It makes no sense.

This 'it was destiny all along' crap really bugs me too. I think someone else said it best- it seems like it wouldn't have mattered if everyone had just died in the mini-series. Because humanity? Is doomed on earth too. The fleet pretty much means nothing, it's all just Hera anymore, which is a little bit bothersome.

It had seemed to me that before this finale, BSG was all about choice. Choices in the face of survival: do I choose to let people keep their rights or take some away to keep us alive? Do I choose to embrace my cylon nature or love of a human? Do I choose to give in to cylon occupation to keep myself alive or fight them even if it means toture, death, etc.? I could go on and on. Even in the finale we get the importance of choice in the face of Boomer- who's made a lot of wrong choices and finally chooses the right one. And in the last half hour of the finale, it appears that choices really never had anything to do with it at all.
It's especially bothersome with Lee, who has been ranting and raving about the importance of democracy in pretty much every episode, and in the finale comes across as "eh, it doesn't really matter. Government's not important." Government always has been important to Lee. For him to suddenly be "it's what's in our hearts! Love and family is all we need!" seems out of character for him. Especially since Lee has often chosen democracy and the rights of people over love and family (mutinies against dad, leaves Dee to go defend Baltar).

For the show to suddenly go all John Calvin on us seems very out of character for the series itself. The only thing that I think remotely fits is the idea of total depravity re: Baltar, in that Baltar in the beginning was definitely the guy who rejected God in favor of serving himself. But that doesn't fit entirely, since Baltar is "converted". John Calvin was not a propenent of democracy, I can say that (well, of course democracy not existing at the time...). But he wouldn't be anyway! He didn't believe people worked for a greater good, that all of us are evil at heart, hence the need for predestination. The idea that people work for the greater good, as many of the characters in BSG arguably did, does not stand with predestination. If such a theology exists, someone please show me!

The idea of predestination is unnerving at best. The idea that God picks and chooses who gets to go to heaven and there is not a DAMN THING you can do about it. In this case you can equate heaven for Earth (which is a whole other issue with me, don't get me started). It's unsettling to think about in terms of the show too- Elosha, Billy, Dee, Kat, Gaeta, etc. all deemed unworthy by God? A lot of these people who died got pretty honorable deaths, but to think that they just died because they were not the chosen ones is a slap in the face to their characters. Did their deaths mean anything? It had seemed like they did until you get all Calvinistic and 'it was always destiny for certain people, or just Hera, to reach Earth'.

Then we could get into how both the cylon religion and the religion of the colonies, that despite both being very different (and it ended up that the cylon religion was the more truthful? how the hell did that happen, I thought the cylons were supposed to be the evil ones) both led them to their destiny. We could get into a whole mess about how God inputs truth into all religions, and wow that is a whole other theology point entirely. And I think I am done debating theology in relation to BSG, unless someone would like to join my rant.

Seriously? I have never had the itch to be back at Hope until about right now. I'm sure I could find tons of people to debate this with me there.

gaeta_squee people that read this? Just fyi, I went to a college associated with the Reform Church of America. If that maybe explains a bit.